Great Smoky Mountains Fishing Report 10/30/14
Well, Derek Porter either changed his schedule, or I misundertood him. I wrote
yesterday, that he was fishing this weekend. Instead, he has been fishing and
yesterday was his last day. I'm still going to call him the "rain man" because it did rain
yesterday. An email that came late yesterday, reported he had the best trip
he has ever had in the Smokies. He caught dozens of rainbows and browns each
day including one 20 inches. He reported the browns were staging to spawn but he
didn't see any redds. I will be providing a full report maybe by tomorrow, or after he
gets his pictures and videos of the 20 inch brown downloaded.
I'm sure you have heard that trout don't live in ugly places and neither does Angie
and James Marsh. I took these shots yesterday, of the views outside our windows
and front porch.
Smoky Mountain Weather:
Today, will be sunny with a high near 60. Calm wind will come from the north around
5 mph in the afternoon. Tonight's low will be around 38.
For Friday, there's a a 30 percent chance of showers after 1pm. It will be partly
sunny, with a high near 58. Calm wind will come out of the northwest around 5 mph in
Smoky Mountain Stream Conditions:
The streams with links that have nearby USGS Station Real-time stream data:
Little River: Rate 125 cfs at 1.63 ft.
(good wading conditions up to 250 cfs, and with extra caution up to 400 cfs)
Oconaluftee River: Rate 226 cfs at 1.33 ft.
(good wading conditions up to 500 cfs, and with extra caution up to 700 cfs)
Cataloochee Creek: Rate 50 cfs at 2.29 ft
(good wading conditions up to 125 with extra caution up to 150 cfs)
Little Pigeon River doesn't have a station nearby but is in good shape but got a
little higher (see picture below).
Hazel Creek and the other larger NC streams flowing into Fontana Lake: Customers
reported Hazel is in good shape.
Current Recommended Streams:
I think you can fish about anywhere you wish today.
Recommended Trout Flies:
1. Blue-winged Olives:
Hook Size 20/18/16
2. Brown and White Belly Sculpins:
Especially good in off color, high water & early/late in the day
Hook Size 6
3. Slate Drakes
Hook Size 10/12
4. Little Yellow Quills
Hook Size 16
5. Great Autumn Brown Sedge:
Hook Size 10
6. Needle Stoneflies
Hook Size 16/18
7. Carpenter Ants, Black
Hook Size 16/18
8. Japanese Beetles
Hook Size 16/14
Recommended Fishing Strategy:
Keep in mind, the strategies I am recommending is for the maximum odds
of catching numbers of fish. Many prefer or favor a dry fly and by all means there
isn't anything wrong with that. It's just a fact that if nothing is hatching at the time, it
reduces your odds of success. You can still probably hook some trout, just not as
many as if you fish subsurface. Of course, this is also based on using good
techniques and the right flies. Some guys don't know how to fish below the surface.
Until I spotted something hatching, assuming I was fishing a low to mid elevation
stream, I would fish a size 18 Blue-winged Olive nymph. Many of the species of
mayflies called Blue-winged Olives are bi-brooded, meaning they hatch twice a year.
They are swimming nymphs that dart around in short spurts and hide wherever they
can. They don't stay wedged up under the rocks like most of the other mayfly
nymphs, the majority of which are clingers.
There are still some Slate Drakes hatching in the lower elevations. This will occur off
and on from now into the month of November. If you spot their shucks on the rocks,
switch to a Slate Drake nymph.
Little Yellow Quills are still hatching in some of the higher elevation streams. These
are mostly a mid to high elevation insect, often confused with Light Cahills, but quite
Needle Stoneflies will still be hatching in the mid to high elevations. These are very
narrow, long shaped stoneflies that when in flight, look more like a caddifly than a
stonefly. Like all stoneflies they crawl out of the water in low light conditions to hatch.
The egg layers can provide some great action in the late afternoons.
Great Autumn Brown Sedges, or caddiflies, are hatching. These are large caddis that
hatch during the evening and lay their eggs late in the day and early evenings. If you
camp, you will probably see them around your lights.
Tips for Beginners:
First learn what food it is you need to be imitating, that should determine what flies
you should be using. It isn't really that complicated. Trout will always focus on and
position themselves in the stream to eat the most plentiful and most available food.
It's natures way for them to expend the least amount of energy to acquire the most
Many anglers, in fact most anglers, try to short cut the process and first try
to determine what flies they need to be using. It's the difference in knowing what you
are doing, and just relying on pure trial and error. It makes the difference in being
consistently successful or having to blame the lack of success on the fish or
Tips for the Self Proclaimed Experts:
Whatever Hits Me:
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(Chief Fishing Officer) Perfect Fly
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This one is of the Little Pigeon River in Pigeon
Forge taken yesterday afternoon where there
are miles of good smallmouth bass water that
is rarely fished.
Angie, and she will kill me for showing this,.but she never reads
what I write and will never know. She just got back from walking
Biddie, our only child, a Cocker Spaniel.
Front porch view. Normally, we see mountains
above the tree line you see, but they are hidden
by the fog in this shot.
Left Side View. As you can see, we live in the woods
Right side view
Back Yard View