Great Smoky Mountains Fishing Report 10/23/17
Yesterday, I mention leaves and today, we have a high wind warning from the National
Weather Service. We may be getting about 1 to 2 inches of leaves as well as rain
It isn't going to be a good day to fish the streams of the park. It could even be
dangerous. You could get hit in the head with a tree limb. If the 1 to 2 inches of rain
forecast turns out to be true, we will probably have high water levels in the morning. A
little stain won't hurt anything. Streamers may catch a large brown trout under such
Yesterday, an angler asked me how I knew what flies to recommend when I didn't have
any reports from anyone fishing. Every once in a while I post the results of someone's
catch. It seems to be interesting to those planning on fishing within a day or two of such
posting. Sometimes, I think it is a mistake to do so. We never base fly
recommendations on the flies someone uses to catch fish. I don't usually even
mention what someone used when I do post such reports. We base fly section strictly
on the hatch charts we developed over the years, the time of the year someone will be
fishing, and the water temperature. That tells us what the most plentiful and available
foods will be available for trout to eat at the time. That is always what you should be
imitating with a fly.
Weather: (At Gatlinburg at about 1600 ft)
Today, expect showers before noon, then showers and possibly a thunderstorm
between noon and 3pm, then showers likely after 3pm. The high will be near 67. It will
be breezy, with a south wind 15 to 20 mph becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph in the
afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 35 mph. The chance of precipitation is 90%.
New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches is possible. Tonight's, low will be around
Tuesday, there's a 20 percent chance of showers after 9am. It will be mostly sunny,
with a high near 59. South wind will be 5 to 10 mph becoming west in the afternoon.
Smoky Mountain Stream Conditions:
The streams with links that have nearby USGS Station Real-time stream data: Click the
links to see updates:
Little River: Rate 83.8 cfs at 1.58 ft.
(good wading conditions up to 250 cfs, and with extra caution up to 400 cfs)
Oconaluftee River: Rate 194 cfs at 1.22 ft.
(good wading conditions up to 500 cfs and caution up to 700 cfs)
Cataloochee Creek: Rate 44.2 cfs at 2.27 ft
(good wading conditions up to 125 with extra caution up to 150 cfs)
Little Pigeon River: It is below a normal level.
Hazel Creek and the other larger NC streams flowing into Fontana Lake:
They are below normal levels.
Recommended Trout Flies:
In addition to the two list below, you can always send us an email
(firstname.lastname@example.org) or call us at 800 594 4726 providing the specific times
you plan on fishing the park, and we will provide a list of flies and other associated
gear and equipment you need.
Trout Flies Currently Needed:
Brown and White Belly Sculpin:
Hook Size 6
Black and/or Olive Matuka Sculpin:
Size 4, 6, 8
Blue-winged olives: 18 and 16
Slate Drakes: 10/12
Mahogany Duns: 18
Great Autumn Brown Sedge: 10
New: Trout Flies You Will Need Soon (through 10/30/17, in addition to
those on the above list.
Recommended Fishing Strategy:
Keep in mind, the strategies I am recommending is for the maximum odds
of catching numbers of fish. Many prefer or favor a dry fly and by all means there isn't
anything wrong with that. It's just a fact that if nothing is hatching at the time, it reduces
your odds of success. You can still probably hook some trout, just not as many as if
you fish subsurface. Of course, this is also based on using good techniques and the
right flies. Some guys don't know how to fish below the surface.
Not all of the insects you see above will be hatching in the same location. It is usually
only two or three. It varies with the elevation. Some are just starting in the low
elevations and some about finished in the higher elevations. If you fished the day or
two before and know where something is hatching, fish the nymph or larva stage of it. If
you haven't fished the day or two before, until I spotted something hatching, I would
fish the BWO or maybe the Slate Drake nymph. If you spot something hatching (coming
off the water), change to the appropriate emerger, dun or adult imitations of the insect.
Tips for Beginners:
Don't let anyone intimidate you by contending that fly fishing is more difficult to learn
and master than other types of fishing. It isn't.
Tips for the Self Proclaimed Experts:
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