Great Smoky Mountains Fishing Report 09/28/15
They are constantly changing the percentages for rain for the next few days, and I'm
sure that's because the conditions are constantly changing. They are showing the
chances at 70% for next Tuesday and Wednesday, and a good chance of rain
everyday for the next week. I still think the forecast is a good for fishing the streams
of the park this week. You may need your raincoat, or at least I hope you do. We still
I should have reported yesterday, that Harvey and his son fished the Cataloochee
River all day Saturday. They caught enough in the fog and rain that he reported they
had a ball. He also noticed two Great Autumn Brown Sedges crawling on his leg. I
should have already listed them in the fly list below. It is easy to forget the hatches
start in a reverse manner in the Fall from that of Spring. They hatch as the water
gets warmer in the spring, but in the fall, start hatching as the water gets cooler. The
water temperature was 59 degrees on Saturday in Cataloochee Creek according to
him. I am adding the big fall caddis to the list below.
I should mention that they are often confused with the October Caddis. The Great
Autumn Brown Sedges are species of the Pycnopsyche genus. The October Caddis
are the big orange colored cadddisflies of the Dicasmoecus genus. That's the
problem with common names. Great Autumn Browns do hatch in October and in
reality, there is no such thing as an incorrect common name. The Great Autumn
Brown Sedges are the smaller of the two, usually a size 10, and the October caddis
usually a size 6. They are all in the same family of caddisflies. There are over thirty
separate species in the two groups. By the way, for those just learning their bugs,
genus is nothing more than a group of similar insects within the same family, each of
which have one or more separate species.
Weather: (At Gatlinburg at about 1600 ft)
Today, there's a 40 percent chance of showers after 8am. It will be mostly cloudy with
a high near 80. Southeast wind around will be around 5 mph becoming calm.
Tuesday, showers are likely and possibly a thunderstorm. It will be cloudy with a high
near 73. The chance of precipitation is 70%.
Smoky Mountain Stream Conditions:
The streams with links that have nearby USGS Station Real-time stream data: Click
the links to see updates:
Little River: Rate: 38 cfs at 1.09 ft.
(good wading conditions up to 250 cfs, and with extra caution up to 400 cfs)
Oconaluftee River: Rate 128 cfs at 1.02 ft.
(good wading conditions up to 500 cfs, and with extra caution up to 700 cfs)
Cataloochee Creek: Rate 29 cfs at 2.14 ft (good wading conditions up to 125 with
extra caution up to 150 cfs)
Little Pigeon River: It was just a little low yesterday, afternoon. .
Hazel Creek and the other larger NC streams flowing into Fontana Lake:
According to a customer fishing Hazel, it was near normal day before yesterday.
Current Recommended Streams:
Any of the streams in the park.
Recommended Trout Flies:
Brown and White Belly Sculpins:
Hook Size 6
Blue-winged olives: 18/20 and 14
(Little BWOs, Acentrella, Diphetor 20/18's and Eastern BWOs, Drunella 14s
Slate Drakes: 10/12
Little Yellow Stoneflies: 14/16
Little Yellow Quills: 16
Needle Stoneflies: 16/18
Mahogany Duns: 18
Great Autumn Brown Sedges: 10
Inch Worms: Hook size : 10/12/14
Green/Tan/Orange Hoppers: 10/12
Black Carpenter Ants: 16/18
Japanese Beetles: 16/14
Recommended Fishing Strategy:
Keep in mind, the strategies I am recommending is for the maximum odds
of catching numbers of fish. Many prefer or favor a dry fly and by all means there
isn't anything wrong with that. It's just a fact that if nothing is hatching at the time, it
reduces your odds of success. You can still probably hook some trout, just not as
many as if you fish subsurface. Of course, this is also based on using good
techniques and the right flies. Some guys don't know how to fish below the surface.
If you fished the day or two before and know where something is hatching, fish the
nymph or larva stage of it. If you haven't fished the day or two before, until I spotted
something hatching, I would fish the Slate Drake nymph. They are big swimming
nymphs that are easily caught and eaten by trout and are still hatching. If you spot
something else hatching (coming off the water), it will most likely be a Cream Cahill or
Little Yellow Quill. Change to the appropriate emerger, dun or adult imitations of the
When the Slate Drakes, Mahogany Duns, and BWOs are hatching, there will be a
spinner fall late in the day. Often, you can catch more trout fishing the spinner fall
quicker than you can during the hatch. Change to the spinner imitation of the mayfly.
Little Yellow stoneflies are hatching, but of course, these hatches take place during
the evenings. All stoneflies crawl out of the water to hatch. Fishing a Little Yellow
Stonefly nymph, very late in the afternoon near sunset should produce. If you see
the stoneflies depositing their eggs on the surface of the water, switch to the adult
imitation of the stonefly.
Tips for Beginners:
Don't let anyone intimidate you by contending that fly fishing is more difficult to learn
and master than other types of fishing. It isn't.
Tips for the Self Proclaimed Experts:
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